Float inappropriate for Whiskey Flat Parade


Published on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:46 AM PST

“Be pleasant,” that’s one of the guidelines that the Kernville Chamber of Commerce requires of Whiskey Flat Days parade entries. Well, it seems that the Chamber must have been snow-blind this year as very a negative and unpleasant float managed to slip into the Whiskey Flat Days parade. It seems that some local Republicans, suffering from sore-loser syndrome, decided to get nasty with a banner that read “Republicans Free Slaves - Democrats Free Terrorits.” It’s too bad that this handful of Republicans decided to launch unpleasant attacks instead of standing on the merits of their own position.

The Chamber should enforce their own guidelines for parade entries. This entry was not “pleasant.” It was in bad taste and completely inappropriate for the Whiskey Flat Days parade.

Erin Havrilesky


Kernville

Comments

47 comment(s)

    Bob Harris wrote on Mar 14, 2009 6:55 AM:

    " Republicans-"unpleasant attacks instead of standing on the merits of their own position" " “Republicans Free Slaves - Democrats Free Terrorits.”
    Is a very true fact of history past and to be. But, not for the parade! Poor tatste. "

    Area Republican wrote on Mar 8, 2009 4:12 PM:

    " Weekender-----
    Do you realize what you just said? "Lincoln was not interested in equality; he was only interested in "preserving the Union"----gosh, what a concept---do you really think these "Progressives for change" will understand what that means?
    Do you think they care?
    Do you think they have anything in mind except "acting out their crazy stuff?"
    Do you think anything they say about "change" makes any sense compared to what has held our country accountable to the people for the last 250 years? Do you think they care?

    No---they do not care. "

    Weekender wrote on Mar 7, 2009 9:43 PM:

    " Yes, you all need a fact check. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves as a tactical maneuver to gain control of them for the north and break the economic back of the south. Lincoln was NOT interested in equality, he was interested in preserving the union. Plain and simple. "

    HUH wrote on Mar 2, 2009 8:01 AM:

    " trumped up reasons? You don't believe that Global Warming exists? "

    Okay wrote on Feb 27, 2009 8:42 PM:

    " It has been asked and asked and asked for a link to a legitimate website verifying your claims. I am beginning to think we got some "conspiracy" theorist in here. You say its not the British guy, its not the guy released in 2007. And now it sounds suspiciously like your claiming the media is hiding the truth. Maybe you have some secret file that tells the truth. Sounds like a page our of crazy man's book. I've got one request for your claim, prove it. Show me, show me, please show me the proof. "

    All Liberals wrote on Feb 27, 2009 4:21 PM:

    " Marilyn:
    Stay on the subject line; the two floats mentioned Caravan of Compassion or something like that, and Recycling have nothing to do with years ago life, there were no gays out of the closet, and there was no reason for recycling, as people already did it to save money for themselves, not this trumped up reasons Al Gore talks and trumpets to the usa....the biggest lie and farce ever used for reason to generate biz for the libbies......That's the truth! "

    Marilyn wrote on Feb 27, 2009 2:47 PM:

    " GR4Hr:
    I see, recycling and collecting food isn't about community. Yeah those floats were pretty offensive! "

    T. Wilson wrote on Feb 27, 2009 11:21 AM:

    " Whether your a Republican or Democrat the Whiskey Flat Days parade is not the appropriate venue for expressing you political opinions.

    This is supposed to be a small town celebration of our miner/cowboy heritage and history. People come from near and far to enjoy this family friendly occasion and this simply wasn't appropriate for the spirit of this event. "

    Common Sense wrote on Feb 26, 2009 8:18 PM:

    " Those who are extreme Republicans loved the float and those who are extreme Democrats hated the float. But both are missing the point. Most of you seem to forget that facts are important. Lincoln freed the slaves, but what he believed in is not what the Republican Party stands for today. And for the record, terrorists were freed during the Bush administration of course no one mentions that. The point of the outcry is that making such statements weather you believe them or not is inappropriate during a community parade for citizens and children to enjoy. Common Sense people. "

    Checkyourfacts wrote on Feb 26, 2009 3:59 PM:

    " I don't need to defend my comment, thier comment was racist and hateful...period. Makes me wonder about some people in our community if they would defend a comment like that. If you make a racist comment, you can bet your bottom dollar, I am going to call you on it and be proud of it:)
    BTW you lost that bet, I don't have any bumper stickers and I don't hate Bush. If anything I feel sorry for the man, he was way over his head:) However, I did strongly dislike some of his policies! "

    Scribdawg wrote on Feb 26, 2009 2:16 PM:

    " Dear Checkyourfacts, your comments are inflammatory. You are the only one mentioning HATE. Why are you bashing Steve and Lisa? I bet you have a "Buck Fush" bumper sticker on your car. "

    Chad Whiteley wrote on Feb 26, 2009 2:14 PM:

    " I just wanted to say that Checkyourfacts and I agree that Steve and Lisa's comment was hateful and historically inaccurate. "

    GR4Hr wrote on Feb 26, 2009 12:39 PM:

    " Marilyn:
    You talk about a "parade to celebrate Kernville's roots" and the reasoning behind "Cowboys, etc."--in the same parade was a "float entry" that was about recycling, also one about "Compassion collecting food;"
    that group is headed up by a "Gay-Activist" who had his photo in living color on the front page of the KV Sun getting married to his same-sex partner!
    Now, Marilyn, tell me how these entrys connect with the "roots" of Kern River Valley? Homosexuals were not tolerated by people hundreds of years ago! "

    Checkyourfacts wrote on Feb 26, 2009 10:37 AM:

    " Steve and Lisa O Umm! That comment was kind of hateful. First of all Welfare didn't come until much later in 1939. Second I have met a lot Welfare Mamas right here in our community and none of them are African American. Third, I know some very successful African American's who work their butt off. Finally, when broken into race their are more white welfare recipients than any other race:) Sorry to ruin your hate fest but go blame someone else for your problems. "

    they just lack attention in their lives... wrote on Feb 25, 2009 8:34 PM:

    " I think that the Whiskey Flatts parade was the wrong place for that kind of a float.. Yea.. the right to free speech, but was it really necessary to bring that to Whiskey Flatts?... I think it was a cry for attention.. those people are just lacking attention in their lives... that's all.. "

    Marilyn wrote on Feb 25, 2009 4:44 PM:

    " I've read all the responses by the people who supported the float and I don't think one of them is understanding the problem. It's a parade to celebrate the community and it's roots. I saw horses, saloon girls, gun fights, old vehicles, and... a political float? Uh, one of the these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong. Put it in the paper, on your lawn, on your car, etc. This wasn't a political venue. You all should try joining in the celebration next year instead of spreading negative feelings. "

    Sheila wrote on Feb 25, 2009 12:45 PM:

    " I hope everyone heard President Obama last night. He's not the messiah, but he listens and seems to care for "ordinary" Americans. Let's not forget - "United we stand; divided we fall." "

    Checkyourfacts wrote on Feb 25, 2009 11:24 AM:

    " Six of the last eight years, we have had a Republican majority in congress and of course GW for 8 of 8. When did Democrats supposedly release all of these Terrorist? We have had several releases under GW administration, but only after a public outcry over the abuses that occured. I think what we have here are some bitter Republicans who are frustrated because the party is over. The country had enough, but apparently they haven't. Oh well, I am sure someone will buy what your selling:) "

    Re-weekender wrote on Feb 25, 2009 10:58 AM:

    " Since George Bush had one of the lowest approval ratings ever, when he left office, I imagine you are right that a lot of people said a lot of bad things about him. However, you never saw a banner at a Whiskey Flat parade about any of GW debacles. It would have been easy to make a banner about a President who waited to long to react to New Orleans, who never reacted to our economic disaster, who talked like fool, who broke international treaties, and considered diplomacy a weakness. You can thank GW for our current administration:) "

    DB wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:58 AM:

    " I would be interested in knowing how "Wofford Heights" defines a "true American." "

    Weekender wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:10 PM:

    " I find the float entertaining. I find all the leftist garble about it to be petty. Calling Bush every name in the book for the past 8 years was "acceptable", it was "free speech". But don't insult the Messiah. Oh no. There's a clear double standard here. If the float committee wants to ban a float, they have that right. But YOU DON'T. And YOU know who YOU are! "

    DB wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:25 AM:

    " First - regardless of your political affiliation, a parade of this type is not the appropriate venue for a tit-for-tat political debate. Give it a rest.

    Second - while Republican did free the slaves (Lincoln) it took a Democrat (Kennedy/Johnson) to actually get legislation passed to give their ancestors actual civil rights. "

    Wofford Heights wrote on Feb 24, 2009 5:51 AM:

    " The float was EXTREMELY PLEASANT. Every true American that looked at it had a smile! I hope it comes back next year! "

    Weekender wrote on Feb 23, 2009 11:21 PM:

    " Surely no one thinks this is a matter of free political speech? Compared to 8 years of Dem slurs, this is a love note. Parades routinely block floats, so I suppose next year the judges should get busy and decide which floats to cut. "

    Al Steuart wrote on Feb 23, 2009 9:58 PM:

    " Regarding the Republican Whiskey Flats Days Parade entry, although I did not see it, I've seen the photos, and I do support the right for them to make the statement but not in this parade - I'm thinking they did not consider the purpose of the parade - but the judgment illustrated by their decision appears consistent with their party's actions even in the presidential campaign - divisive. Regarding freeing slaves, how many descendants of slaves are in the Republican Party compared to percent of slave descendants who voted for Obama - voting for CHANGE! "

    Scribdawg wrote on Feb 23, 2009 6:10 PM:

    " I loved that float. My friends loved that float. We took pictures of it. Guess the dems are angry cause they didn't think of it first. Whatever happened to "sticks and stones . . . but words can never hurt me?" It is a well known fact that until you start paying about 35 percent of your salary to the IRS, only then will most people become Republicans. The float didn't convince anybody about anything. Now, where's my bailout money? Do I get to keep my boat and motorhome? "

    Republican wrote on Feb 23, 2009 5:15 PM:

    " To re-republican:
    How interesting that you have turned this around to your view, Bush once again is at fault; that "international law" was broken....that is the "twist" of all time....really...don't you feel bad about blaming Bush for everything?

    Is the fact the stock market is falling rapidly since approval of the stimulus bill passed, can you blame Bush for Obama's actions in that matter also? Bah Humbug! "

    re-republican wrote on Feb 23, 2009 4:11 PM:

    " I have no issue with you taking a stance. That float has taken twisted truths and presented them as facts for the pure purpose of causing a scene. It was a distasteful display of politics at its worst. Provide us with some facts, the link to some factual news, validating this claim, fring bloggers, how about CNN, abc, nbc, or msn. Show me the truth in your statement. The shutting down of Guantanamo Bay, is not the same as freeing terrorist. Unfortunately, Bush administration violated international treaties making it necessary to close down Guantanamo Bay. "

    Republican wrote on Feb 23, 2009 11:12 AM:

    " All of you "nay-sayers"----would you have us simply "sit down and shut up" while those children who you say are afraid of statements about terrorists are led to believe that we should not defend our constitution, or defend the morals taught and penned into that constitution are violated? Yes, I am sure the same voices were heard before WW Two by the Polish, Russians, Italians, French, etc. Then when they did "sit down and shut up" they were lined up, put into box cars, and taken to gas chambers at camps! REMEMBER? "

    re-Free Speech wrote on Feb 23, 2009 10:33 AM:

    " I believe in free speech for everyone. However, there is something to be said about self censorship. A float that represented the Republican party's platform would have been far more appropriate. That float cane across as insulting, bitter, petty, and did your party very little favors. "

    Mike wrote on Feb 22, 2009 1:03 PM:

    " Maybe the GOP will actually think about how far they have fallen from the main stream and collectively get there act together, they can again be a useful organization that speaks to the concern of REAL people...Instead of childish name calling and divisive political games "

    john good wrote on Feb 21, 2009 7:53 AM:

    " defending the sign on the republican float, was a "rovian" tactic of divide and conquer. we need these hate filled people to sit down and shut up for awhile while the rest of us, good republicans and democrates, clean up the horrendous mess these "neo-cons" created the last 10 years. "

    Dave wrote on Feb 21, 2009 7:53 AM:

    " This is perfect, what better way to celebrate than to celebrate the Truth?
    And, listening to self appointed authorities on what they believe is appropriate makes as much sense as releasing terrorists. This had nothing to do with losing anything, like this red herring contends.
    Good job Red White and Blue !! "

    olly wrote on Feb 20, 2009 7:48 PM:

    " Free speech is only good for liberals and democrats. Republicans and Conservatives aren't allowed free speech!!!!!!!!!! "

    Marthanell wrote on Feb 20, 2009 6:31 PM:

    " Where were you people(Dems), when the looney-left were trashing President Bush and our country? Oh, that's right you were creating holding those signs, my bad. "

    LogicalSC wrote on Feb 20, 2009 1:15 PM:

    " Where would the writer hope that these children learn that it WAS the Republican Party which has always fought and died for the end of slavery. They certainly aren't going to learn this in our schools.

    Maybe the children will actually begin to think about the propaganda they are fed in our schools and on our MSM nightly. How many of these children know that Albert Gore's father and Bill Clinton's mentor were radical segregationist?

    The truth is that Obama and his supporters are going to be releasing the terrorist currently in GITMO. "

    BILL HOGARTH wrote on Feb 20, 2009 1:11 PM:

    " WOW! I CAN'T BELIEVE THE C of C

    CONDONED THAT FLOAT, AND THE CON-

    TROVERCY THEY KNEW WOULD ENSUE.

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH, YES; BUT YOU

    CAN'T YELL "FIRE" IN A THEATRE! "

    celia wrote on Feb 20, 2009 7:52 AM:

    " "THE TRUTH?" You can't handle the truth! Bottom line, the WF parade is the wrong venue for ANY political jabs. Get that through your heads:perhaps you need to pull them out so your brain can get some oxygen... "

    Republican wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:01 PM:

    " Sometimes.....the TRUTH hurts....and like Duane said...."sometimes TRUTH is unpleasant." "

    William G. wrote on Feb 19, 2009 4:55 PM:

    " This is what Republicans do. Why would anyone expect anything more? "

    Thisissowrong wrote on Feb 19, 2009 3:34 PM:

    " So everyone here thinks there is nothing wrong with scaring young kids. What do you tell your kids when they are afraid because someone places a poster saying that our current administration is letting terrorist go? Give kids some credit for understanding more than you think. I don't care if your a conservative or liberal, I do care when you intentionally try to scare me and my kids. There is a place and a time for everything, and this was clearly the wrong place and time. "

    Area Republican wrote on Feb 19, 2009 6:31 AM:

    " Anybody that looks back into history and supposes that Lincoln supported the "equal rights movement and social programs" has never actually studied history.

    In truth the same social agenda of promoting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is exactly what Republicans still fight for. Those Christian movements that helped to eradicate slavery in this great country still fight for social causes within the Republican party.

    Lincoln established a platform by which there could eventually be an equal rights movement, but let us be real when it comes to history. "

    theresa wrote on Feb 18, 2009 8:48 PM:

    " okay you people are complaining about a float which only spoke the truth but what about last year there was a child molester working with the kids at the kids rides last year come on it was a float and i think it was a great float there are more important things in this world to worry about as for the effect on children come on none of the kids were worried about the float they were just enjoying the events.......... "

    re-Duane Continued wrote on Feb 18, 2009 4:49 PM:

    " I think the American people made thier selves pretty clear what we thought of the modern day Republican party, in the most declaritive election of our era. We said enough is enough. I am sorry that a few fringe people are bitter but that doesn't make that float honest or appropriate. I pay alot of tax's and am willing to pay more, to keep teachers in classrooms and police in our streets. I hope for the sake of our country that Obama is sucessful. In the middle is where success lies, not the right or left:) "

    Re-Duane wrote on Feb 18, 2009 4:37 PM:

    " I think you need to be fair here. That float looked like it was supported by fring groups instead of sane adults who understand the implications. It was a twisted, way of glorifying one's own party without taking into consideration the affect on children. We've all seen fear mongering before and most reasonable adults are going to see that float for what it was. We are in the middle of the worst economic decline in modern history, of which GW did nothing. We watched New Orleans suffer while GW, did nothing. "

    I Agree wrote on Feb 18, 2009 4:26 PM:

    " Not only was this inappropriate but also misleading. Yes, Lincoln was part of the Republican party. However, the Republican party of that era is not the same as the modern day Republican party. Many of the causes he supported: including equal rights movement and social programs, are the same as modern day Democrats. This float was offensive, misleading, and inappropriate in an environment which is supposed to be child friendly such as a parade. I would not go so far as to exclude tasteful political floats but all floats should sensored, considering the audience. "

    Duane Robinson wrote on Feb 18, 2009 4:04 PM:

    " Yes, Sometimes the TRUTH is unpleasant! "

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