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Dilligas wrote on May 8, 2009 8:17 PM:

" Ya'll can yack till you're blue in the face on this, it won't change a thing. It's been a subject of debate for a couple thousand years. I'm concerned with the people like PMCG who think that we "happen" to have the freedoms that we do in this country. Many men and women have fought for and died defending these rights, and those folks deserve respect, I don't believe that they all opposed gay marriage, I don't think they all opposed Christianity, but they fought for your right to do so. "




Webmaster wrote on May 6, 2009 11:30 AM:

" To "this is too much You lost this reader" I believe what you are referring to is an advertisement. They rotate and we do not control them. "




this is too much You lost this reader wrote on May 6, 2009 5:40 AM:

" Now, that is a good photo to have on the page with Al Steuart, a demonic looking chic with blue-black lightening bolt hair with JEK painted on her forehead, and a spike thru her earlobe attached to a pierced cheek with a chain....real attractive, huh Al? Perfect photo to agree with his article regarding human sacrifice! Good God Kern Valley Sun, how low can you sink?! "




5nhL9 wrote on May 2, 2009 10:27 AM:

" Brian, now I see your point, and it’s a good one. Some people respond to Al Steuart’s posts as if their world’s turned upside down because of him. But this is still the place it always was. People like Al have always been here, there, and everywhere. All that’s changed is that they’re being heard more. "




Brian wrote on May 1, 2009 3:56 PM:

" 5nhL9: The point I was making is that some individuals react to the posts of Mr. Steuart and his like-minded friends as though KRV has suddenly transformed into some liberal snakepit. Absolutely, KRV is nothing of the sort. It's still a pretty conservative community. I personally think Mr. Steuart is a brick short of a full load, as most activists tend to be. But he is eloquent and knows precisely how to push the buttons of those with whom he disagrees. And I'm sure The Sun LOVES the web traffic! "




5nhL9 wrote on May 1, 2009 11:36 AM:

" Brian: I don’t know how anyone visiting these pages could be left with a sense that we live in a “liberal haven,” or that the place had changed significantly between last January and last weekend. What in these pages made you think that? To me we sound like Bodfish here, not Berkeley. I hear grunts here from the boondocks. What “liberal” publications have you read that sound anything like us? "




Brian wrote on May 1, 2009 7:21 AM:

" One can't tell that KRV has become a liberal haven of perverse behaviors and anti-Christian hate from a casual weekend visit. I was a weekender there until this past January and, after visiting this past weekend, it all seems somewhat the same. People who frequent this forum and argue with the likes of Mr. Steuart and others let the demographic of this forum trick them into thinking those who think like Mr. Steuart and others are a majority. They aren't and never will be and often grossly inflate their numbers to make themselves feel better. "




tRFLD wrote on Apr 30, 2009 11:06 AM:

" Real funny, wobbit, snubbing atheists. Just wait till God snubs you. "




Wobbit-follower wrote on Apr 29, 2009 6:48 PM:

" Happy Belated Easter to Christian Friends,....Happy Belated Passover to Jewish friends,.....to Atheist friends...........Good Luck! "




Webmaster wrote on Apr 27, 2009 10:47 PM:

" A word to the wise (counselor): The purpose of this forum is to facilitate public dialogue, express opinions, add something thoughtful to the conversation. It is not the place for venomous, mean-spirited name-calling. Your most recent comment about the Pantry having too many donations will not be posted because it is not true. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and it can be expressed here if done honestly and with a modicum of civility. "




Mac wrote on Apr 27, 2009 10:41 PM:

" I don't get posted sometimes either. And how do you know that all of Mr. Steuart's comments get posted? Celia has said her stuff gets rejected too. Why not quit trying to play the martyr card and instead think about why your comments might have been deemed inappropriate? "




Wise Counselor wrote on Apr 27, 2009 12:43 PM:

" Isn't it interesting Al Stuart writes and gets posted immediately. The rest of us either don't get posted on some of our writings at all, or never see them for a week! Very interesting indeed, too rare for coincidence! "




Al Steuart wrote on Apr 26, 2009 3:29 PM:

" Geez, what you attribute to me! I do not create feelings of hate for myself - such feelings accomplish nothing. My letter was about the Easter celebration of human sacrifice - you Christians do worship a spirit who practiced human sacrifice - I used to but when I learned to think I determined such a belief has no support in "reality." Do you continue to worship this human-sacrificing being out of fear? Isn't your belief built on fear? You even fear persons like me asking questions! Apparently Jesus LOVED MEN, just didn't express it sexually? Not a single female disciple? "




justagirl wrote on Apr 26, 2009 9:04 AM:

" Just for my 2 cents...Christ wasn't killed by God, he was killed by the citizens of Judea.Pilate decided on passover day, one prisoner would have to be released. Pilate wanted Jesus to be free, but the crowd wanted Barabas free , and he was set free at the cost Jesus.
As for gay marriage,which is where this began. The church should stay out. God doesn't approve. But the state should not be regulating love either and then citing religion a reason.
as for the rest "judge not lest ye be jugded" or lets try "live and let live" "




Proud to be Pagan wrote on Apr 24, 2009 9:13 AM:

" Sorry, wise.....go look it up....Quakers have diversified....just like all of humanity....catch up so you don't get left behind. "




what wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:09 PM:

" Debby: If you weren't talking about Gay marriage, just what did you" vote your conscience about?" It seems reasonable for writers to think that is what you were talking about. So get off the false pitty wagon. Really, christians, for some reason, want people to think you are sooooo persecuted but you are not. Just because someone expresses a different opinion does not make you persecuted. Actually, YOU are doing the persecuting by treating a group less than yourselves."Whatever you have done to the least of these, you have done to me"- by denying Gays equality, you deny Christ= "




thinker wrote on Apr 23, 2009 7:58 PM:

" Debby-There was a vote in November. On the ballot was prop8, taking away the right for same sex couples to marry. Connecting the dots, why are you so angry that people think that's what you are talking about? But you do prove a point: The religious fanatics are pulling at strings to find things to complain about. Like making someone elses marriage have something to do with your's..... "




Wise Counselor wrote on Apr 23, 2009 6:22 PM:

" Debbie: Your comment of April 21st was perfectly clear to me, I don't know why these others don't understand, I think it is "spiritual blinding" and when ever they hear the truth, it falls on ground which will not "bear fruit." Thats my take on these people who hear the truth over and over but never does it get into their thinking mind.

And to the person who talked about Quakers: I am from Quaker heritage, believe me, Quakers were not agnostic! Now you have really offended me! "




T2Jm7 wrote on Apr 23, 2009 5:19 PM:

" Debby: Why is it gays you’re addressing your comments to? It isn’t only gays who find your views objectionable. Mac found fault with what you said, and he isn’t gay. I find you ignorant, and I’m not gay. To answer your question: I assumed your comment pertained to gay marriage when you said, at the start, that you had voted your conscience and now had to listen to the rantings of a man who “didn’t get his way”. Was gay marriage not on your mind then? If not, you’ve been misunderstood. "




Debby wrote on Apr 23, 2009 3:05 PM:

" Why did everyone assume i was commenting on "gay marriage" i thought i was being very clear that the letter accusing us of "celebrating human sacrifice"was absolutely absurd. It doesn't seem to do any good whatsoever to discuss or argue anything at all. You are allowed to pretty much say anything you want about us whether it's true or not. But when we try to defend the truth on ANY SUBJECT you always bring it back to us attacking your civil rights. Why do you have to make absurd accusations?? Can't your position be supported in truth insteadof lies?? "




H78Qj wrote on Apr 23, 2009 1:36 PM:

" Good for Al for raising questions about a religion many use to justify their bigotry. More questions: It usually took a man three days to die on a cross, but God left Jesus up there for only a few hours before finishing him off. Did our sins not merit three whole days? Also, if Jesus was flesh, how did he leave Mary a virgin after passing through her? If he was spirit, how did the nails penetrate his hands? Also, why are so many Christians blatant hatemongers? Hate’s scattered all over this page. "




PMCG wrote on Apr 22, 2009 8:32 PM:

" We happen to live in a free country. Whether it be founded upon Christian morals and values, it was still written otherwise. There are many sects of religion such as forms of Buddhism that encourage and celebrate gay relationships. Suddenly there is no more freedom of religion is there? The right of marriage should be determined by those who are to be married. Not much different than a telephone company saying who can and can't have phones based on what faith they follow or because they don't feel like it. "




to red wrote on Apr 22, 2009 6:04 PM:

" "by people who fled their own country to be able to have a country in which they could practice their christian beliefs" WRONG! They came here so that they could be free to believe as they wanted to without being murdered.....forget the Quakers? People who were dissatisfied with the existing denominations and sects of Christianity. Quakers consider themselves universalist, agnostic, atheist, secular humanist, postchristian, or Nontheist Friend, or do not accept any religious label.Go back to school... "




Mike wrote on Apr 22, 2009 6:02 PM:

" I don't know about God being against the Gay life style...right or wrong...I don't know..I do know that when I turned 50 and had my first prostrate exam that NO ONE would CHOOSE this as a life style..leave the Gays alone..leave us straight people alone and every one go about there business..LOLOLOLOLOL at you all. "




Mac wrote on Apr 22, 2009 9:10 AM:

" Wise Counselor, I don't really have an "agenda" other than fairness. A lot of the argument against gay marriage seems to be based in religion; I thought it was pertinent information to show that gay marriage was sanctioned by The Church in the past, and a gay couple were even sainted. Don't forget that the Bible was put together by a committee of men, probably with an agenda, and had to be translated to English and might not have even been kept in context. So who is to say the the pertinent passages even say what was originally meant? "




red wrote on Apr 22, 2009 6:56 AM:

" Okay I have been reading all of these interesting comments and find it fasinating. I guess I just want to say that when our country was founded the laws were based on christian beliefs by people who fled their own country to be able to have a country in which they could practice their christian beliefs. So much has changed since our ancestors came to this country for the freedom to practice christianity. Now the country is pretty much taking GOD out of this country, when he was the reason for creating the free country. "




Wise Counselor wrote on Apr 21, 2009 11:15 PM:

" Well. I guess we know what Mac's agenda is also. Yes, Mac, the URL listing history of "same-sex marriage" will probably be allowed here; just don't counter with a Bibical reference, the Editor and Publisher do not like anything to do with religion that states anything against homosexuals, but they printed what you said, so I guess you got away with it. We will see if they will print mine in rebuttal.... "




celia wrote on Apr 21, 2009 7:43 PM:

" Debby:If I voted my conscience and did not allow you to marry(and get all the financial perks that go along with it)would you be upset? "not getting our way" is not the issue. If it was up to popular vote, women, blacks and interacial couples would not have gotten their way. Some things should not be up for a vote, the marriage of conscenting adults being one of them. It is unbelievably arragent to put yourself in such a superior position. And noone is forcing you to read anything...When do I get to vote on your marriage? "




Mac wrote on Apr 21, 2009 6:55 PM:

" I just found something very fascinating regarding same-sex unions sanctified by The Church. It was apparently very common back in the day. A Prof. John Boswell from Yale's History Department uncovered ancient ceremonies called "Office of Same-sex Union" and "Order for Uniting Two Men" among many other fascinating facts. Look up a pair of saints named Sergius and Bacchus who were considered to be a male couple. I'm not sure this is allowed, but including the URL below. I recommend it to those on both sides of the issue; it's very enlightening.

www.colfaxrecord.com/detail/91429.html (Webmaster note: in the 8/24/08 online edition of the Colfax Record) "




Mac wrote on Apr 21, 2009 6:06 PM:

" "The absurd rantings of someone who didn't get his way"? These are people's lives and families we're talking about here. I think you'd be ranting too if people who were completely unaffected by your relationship status voted to nullify it.

Way to be sensitive and compassionate though... I'm sure Jesus is very proud. "




Debby wrote on Apr 21, 2009 12:02 PM:

" I voted my conscience and thanked God for the privilege of living in a country where i could do so. Then I have to listen to the absurd rantings of someone who didn't get his way. I often don't get my way but getting petty doesn't help. I have never celebrated the "practice of human sacrifice" I celebrate the Resurrection of Christ because it proves that death has no dominion. That means i can live and vote according to my conscience without fear of what anyone thinks or does, even unto death. I celebrate LIFE not human sacrifice. "




Wise Counselor wrote on Apr 21, 2009 11:19 AM:

" Wow Ken, you are so right! Thank you Al Steuart for posting your letters, so that the truth about God can be validated by true believers! Keep on writing Al, you are carrying the message far more then any other agnostic! Praise God, that HE IS USING YOU IN A POSITIVE WAY! "




Mac wrote on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 AM:

" To Kris - Christians would not be "accused and condemned everywhere" as you put it if they would just mind their own business and stop trying to run the lives of other people. If you don't believe in gay marrige, fine. Don't marry someone of the same sex as you. Live and let live and I guarantee you, nobody will say a word about you. "




Ken wrote on Apr 20, 2009 9:59 AM:

" Al sure gets a lot of attention for writing, especially every week. But, He is causing Christ to be preached just like when Paul was in jail. Thanks Al! You are preaching Christ whether you know it or not! Keep writing, Christ followers! Praise the Lord! "




celia wrote on Apr 20, 2009 7:48 AM:

" Mac. I agree. Meanings change after a few thousand years and well, play the game"telephone" and you get the idea of how realiable the bible "facts"are. I think, as with all mythology, people came across something, say a fire, and made up stories about how and why it happened. Stories are not fact and a book of stories should not be a foundation for civil codes. If people want to believe these stories, fine. Noone is burning bibles here. We just don't want the stories forced on us as law. It's okay to be christian, just don't be "taliban-like". "




kris wrote on Apr 20, 2009 7:04 AM:

" I would rather believe and be wrong than not believe and be wrong. Christians need to stay strong during this time , we are being accused and condemned everywhere, just as the Lord said we would, just stand your ground, be a good and true example of Christ to others, they need him more than ever. "




Mac wrote on Apr 18, 2009 11:11 PM:

" Celia, even if the putting together of the bible was not suspect, it was written long ago in a vastly different language, with no real way to know if the context is correct. Take "thou shalt not kill" which some have interpreted to mean any taking of life is wrong. It actually turns out that it is "thou shalt not murder" which means one can kill in self-defense or during war or even execute criminals and be perfectly in the right. What else has been misinterpreted? I'd go with the jewish interpretations; they at least keep their documentation pure. "




Mac wrote on Apr 18, 2009 11:02 PM:

" Wise Counselor - is a sin not a sin whether it be pride or "killing" of a POTENTIAL human being? You take it upon yourself to judge which is worse? If there is a God, only he knows what is in a person's heart. You do not know a person's situation, do not presume to judge it. Anyway, I'd take the Jewish view of abortion over the Christian one considering their documents are unadulterated while there are many various versions of the Christian bible. How handy to be able to take your pick. "




Weekender wrote on Apr 18, 2009 6:14 PM:

" An article about Human Sacrifice should be about the Maya and Aztec. :-) "




celia wrote on Apr 18, 2009 6:10 PM:

" Mac, I like your comments and you are correct when you say the bible was chosen by a committee. I remember that light bulb moment in bible lit class at christian college. We went over the cannonization proocess and I got it-the bible we now have went through the filters of politicians. My professor was bald and his entire face and head went red. The more I studied and thought about it, the more I grew to not believe the inerrancy of the bible. I respect peoples right to believe, just don't want it as civil law. "




Wise Counselor wrote on Apr 18, 2009 6:01 PM:

" How can you compare having an abortion (a sin-killing a human) with walking around with their nose in the air, and feeling self righteous? It sounds like you basically understand the principles of Christianity, but have been deceived by the "dirt guy" (the devil) with information that is not true. Free choice was given to man by God, to sin or not to sin, God did give man choice to commit sin--yes--but he did not say there would be punishment for it--man, kings, etc. did that--that was their choice, not Gods. "




Mac wrote on Apr 18, 2009 4:49 PM:

" The reference to concubines was the fact that in the OT men were allowed to keep a number of women. But, society changed and these days a man with a lot of girlfriends would be called a sinner and condemned for adultery. One reason why I left Christianity was because of the behavior of the people who practice it. Being gay is a sin, but gossiping and being hateful is apparently a-ok. You'll be condemned if you have an abortion but you can walk around with your nose up and feel self-righteous all day long. "




Mac wrote on Apr 18, 2009 4:39 PM:

" How does my statement not make sense? God creates people who are gay, but then tells them that to live as he created them is a sin. What kind of a loving god would do that?

The rest of it...well, man created the bible, a committee picked out which chapters to put in and which to leave out. You could argue that they were "divinely inspired" but bearing in mind the savage history of The Church I'm more inclined to believe they designed it for crowd control and the keeping of power. "




Wise Counselor wrote on Apr 18, 2009 9:45 AM:

" Mac: your statement does not make sense, please explain the last sentence....well, maybe even the last 2 sentences....thanks..... "




Mac wrote on Apr 18, 2009 6:41 AM:

" The problem with the bible is that people pick and choose what they want to follow. It was put together by man, who always has an agenda in such matters, like power and controlling the populace. Why do men no longer have umpteen wives and concubines? "God" was cool with it back in the day. But society has changed, and it continues to change. That aside, what kind of a God would create people to only love their own gender but tell them that to follow their hearts as God himself created them is a sin? "




Wise Counselor wrote on Apr 17, 2009 11:46 AM:

" I still wonder why some think that believing in Christianity must be wrong, if some people think it is alright for "same-sex marriage" what is wrong with us believing that Christianity states in the Bible that action is wrong?! "




celia wrote on Apr 16, 2009 2:29 PM:

" I believe in a middle ground on this subject but I understand the frustraition of the writer. For centuries, the "christian" church has gotten away with murder,literally,(witch hunts etc.) and noone seems to challange their "authority". The church has a history of using fear to force their ways on EVERYONE. This is being challanged by those of us who believe differently and do not want religion to be part of our secular legal code.The free ride is over as more people are being educated. Believe what you want, have authority in your OWN church and keep it there. "




DB wrote on Apr 16, 2009 2:05 PM:

" Why don't you all get down off your crosses - we need the wood. "




Proud to be Pagan wrote on Apr 16, 2009 7:35 AM:

" Well Al, I get what you're saying albeit it a little extreme. To others....no one died for MY sins...as you say he was considered a criminal..so you pay homage to a criminal then? As for the plastic eggs ritual, that was just another one of the pagan festivals stolen by the Christians along with Yule (xmas) and Samhain (Halloween)abd others. They had to steal the pagan rituals in order to get the pagans to convert....deceit from the very beginning and unfortunately, continuing. "




kris wrote on Apr 15, 2009 9:54 PM:

" Just curious where Mr. Stuert gets his information and where he was educated. Obviously he has some issues and sounds like a very bitter, sad, and angry man. If you understood and had God in your life, that would change, I pity you and will pray.
By the way Jesus was condemned to die as a criminal, not a sacrifice, but the sacrifice was made that we might have eternal life, you know they still do carry the death peanlty and some of them on death row may be innocent just as well. May God forgive you for your ignorance. "




Ken wrote on Apr 15, 2009 8:48 AM:

" How awesome to think that He did it out of Love for us! When we accept that fact we begin to become more like the Guy that never sinned! I know I could not sacrifice my kid. It's totally a faith thing for me! No human could have sanely done that! "




C.O.T.J. wrote on Apr 15, 2009 12:06 AM:

" Mr.Steuart...... WOW, coming from a Minister(weren't you?)CHRIST'S Human Sacrifice was not barbaric SIR!!!!! By the way.... CHRIST IS Gods Son, Why can you not live your Athiest life and allow we Christians our rights and pleasures to live and LOVE our Christ without your perverse and demeaning rants! Your words are despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself. But you wont be. You have not Christ in your heart. Your Right on one accont, GLORY be to GOD for his sacrifice for His Son. He even died it for YOU.So, Please, don't consider me insane...just humbled,grateful and Redeamed! "




Wise Counselor wrote on Apr 14, 2009 11:39 PM:

" Al Steuart, I will pray for your soul. "




Jane wrote on Apr 14, 2009 10:56 PM:

" Jesus Vs. the Easter Bunny!

I don't know about all of you, but nothing reminds me more of Jesus up on the cross then a pink, blow-up Easter bunny.

Seriously, were do we get plastic eggs filled with candy, and Jesus dying for our sins combined on the same day?

What a mess. Leave it to the goys to screw everything up!

Thank God I'm Jewish! You guys scare me to death! And, please leave OUR holidays alone! God only knows what you'd do with them! "




Emily wrote on Apr 14, 2009 10:31 PM:

" You are angry because you know you live a life style contrary to the God who did die for you on that cross. Here's a slogan for you to ponder, "No pain, NO gain. No cross, No crown." "