Readers respond to Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s editorial,
'Health Care Reform: The Cure Shouldn’t be Worse Than the Problem'


Published on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:54 PM PDT

At least be honest

As a practicing physician and a small business owner of the Kern River Valley, I was intrigued by your editorial in our local newspaper. While I agree that changes need to be made in our health care system in order for it to survive, I find it shameless of you to continue to shill for the insurance companies and Pharma which have gotten us into this mess.

Your assertion that the CBO suggested that the Pelosi healthcare bill would not control health care costs is quite misleading since there is no Pelosi health care bill. And as you are well aware, without the Public Option cost will certainly continue to rise at an unsustainable 12 percent per year.

Congressman, at least be honest in this public debate. I will gladly discuss my experiences as a doctor on the front lines in a public or private setting.

Dr. Robert Gross/Board Member KVHD

McCarthy's mind already made up

Regarding Kevin McCarthy’s “fact” about Canadian babies born in Buffalo, I called Buffalo News about a July 2 story about ONE infant receiving treatment (not born) because of a shortage of neonatal beds at a Hamilton, Ontario hospital. Public relations spokesperson at Women & Children’s Hospital in Buffalo indicates the hospital has an agreement with Hamilton’s McMaster Children’s Hospital to take neonatals when McMaster exceeds its 47 neo-natal beds.

According to the spokesperson, about one child per month from Canada is treated at the Buffalo Hospital – a total of 14 treated in 2008. Hamilton’s population is 714,900; Buffalo’s population is 279,745. It is not unusual for hospitals in smaller cities to assist hospitals in larger cites. Also, per Imaginis, the Women’s Health Resource online, the UK has breast cancer survival rate of 72.5 percent; the US has 78.5 percent rate – hardly a significant difference. Regarding prostate cancer, the US has higher detection rate than the UK and has 15-year survival rate of 76 percent; the UK has 71 percent survival rate, but I’ll admit accurate data is a challenge to locate online. Regarding that “independent research firm” named Lewin, per a July 22 article in Washington Post, that “independent” firm is totally owned by United Health Group, one of the nation’s largest health insurers – hardly an “independent” group. Did McCarthy check his “facts?” Why a “town meeting” when McCarthy has already decided NOT to support a public option?

Al Steuart/Wofford Heights

Private insurance companies control healthcare

McCarthy attacks the proposed Public Option which would exist along with private, for-profit, health insurance saying, “We need to protect the choice of individuals and families when it comes to choosing doctors and treatment.” He says government would have “more control over our heath care” and the Public Option would mean “not getting treatment at all because the government made a cost-cutting decision.”

Who controls selection of doctors and treatments and limits and denies care now? Your private insurance (if you have one) has these controls. You must consult only the doctors on a list. The treatments and medications allowed and the number of days in hospital are determined by the insurance company. Insurance companies control health care by refusing coverage or canceling the policy when they suspect a prior condition caused the present problem.

Private insurance companies control who gets health care by charging rates beyond the reach of many and insuring only the young and healthy, rejecting the old or those with a history of illness.

These companies make huge profits, pay extremely high executive salaries, reward employees for denying claims and have overhead costs far exceeding Medicare.

My now-retired physician husband spent many hours weekly arguing with insurance company clerks for coverage of necessary treatments, medications and hospital days. He had insurance companies change the diagnosis on claims he submitted so he would get lesser reimbursement for care he provided.

Mr. McCarthy criticizes the current heath care reform efforts as “rushed debate” and “ramming through...legislation”. Health care reform was first proposed nearly 100 years ago by Teddy Roosevelt and supported by FDR, Truman, Kennedy, LBJ, Clinton and, now, Obama.  That doesn’t sound like a rush!

Jacqueline P. Morgan/Kernville

Comments

47 comment(s)

    Mac wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:46 AM:

    " Real Truth, since your own self-interest seems to be the only thing guiding you re: health reform, try this on for size: Kimberly Young, a 22 year old Miami University graduate from Ohio, died from H1N1 on September 23rd. She was sick for 2 weeks before going to the doctor because she was uninsured. I wonder, how many people came in contact with her in those 2 weeks? How many uninsured sick people will you come in contact with at Vons or Walmart or at the post office this coming flu season? "

    Mac wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:22 AM:

    " Funny, Real Truth, the people that I personally know in those countries are all very happy with their health care. Our own system of health care is third world in comparison. It's sad that is somehow good enough for you. But then it seems you have your own health care covered and so care nothing for the problems of other people. Now, what I get from your post is that you value money over your neighbors health. I suggest you check out Luke 10 25-37 and see if your viewpoint meshes with that of your savior. "

    The Real Truth wrote on Sep 23, 2009 11:58 PM:

    " Mac, what is this tactic you have developed to side track discussion?
    I notice you and others seem to think that because other countrys have given in to Universal Healthcare, that the United States should also. If you love those countrys so much, admire their healthcare system so much, why don't you go live there? The people in those countrys you quote hate their system of healthcare because they pay over 60% tax of whatever they earn!
    Do your research, don't just give figures, find quotes from other countrys. Why do you think they all want to come here? "

    Bob Walker wrote on Sep 18, 2009 5:19 PM:

    " John Perry, No other country in the world that has top 100 health insurance has private insurers. Switzerland got ride of them in 1990's because they screwed he public. It's that simple. they make 20-30% profit instead of Medicare's 2-3%.
    Get a hold of that fact.
    Also, Medicare sets the price of operations, private insurance companies don't because they can always drop you or refuse to pay 22% of the time.
    When you have a heart attack, cancer etc., would you rather have Medicare or private?
    Republicans have not come up with squat. "

    Mac wrote on Sep 14, 2009 1:00 PM:

    " Have you heard the latest? Insurance companies in 9 states declaring "domestic violence" to be a pre-existing condition and denying claims? And you really trust these guys to police themselves? "

    John Perry wrote on Sep 11, 2009 11:27 PM:

    " Mac, are you telling me that all 1300 Insurance companies will be less than honest?
    Obama wants competition and this would do it. Private companies cannot compete against the Federal government with their unlimited amounts of our tax money.
    Obama says he will save money in Medicare by eliminating waste and fraud. If it's that easy why doesn't he start doing it know? Why wait the 4 years until the plans starts to save money? Do it now!He acts as if waste and fraud has been ignored, it hasn't. "

    Mac wrote on Sep 8, 2009 10:21 PM:

    " One of the problems is, those 1300 insurance companies will still not want to insure sick people, will look for reasons to cancel policies of sick people and will deny legitimate claims with flimsy excuses. They'll compete like crazy for the healthy folks, but that doesn't help those with pre-existing conditions. If we can do something about that, I don't care what plan gets put into place, as long as it works better than what we have now. "

    John Perry wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:22 PM:

    " Why are there no free market solutions in Health care reform as put forth by the Republicans? Yesterday obama lied to his union supporters when he stated that Republicans had no reform plans and did not want reform. the man is a serial liar.
    BOB, I think only 6 insurance companies write heath insurance in California, there are over 1300 in America. Why not allow purchases across state lines and increase competition.
    BO says his plan will increase competition. Why not let 1300 write insurance in California instead of only 6? "

    Bob Walker wrote on Sep 6, 2009 6:52 PM:

    " John Perry
    I'm with you on tort reform. But read the CA statistics. One out of every five requests by a Doctor for a procedure was refused by the top six insurance companies in the last six years. And that is for folks that HAVE insurance.
    We simply don't need private insurance.
    Only Switzerland had private companies in the top 20 best health care nations and they got rid of them in 1995 because they do not care about the patient.The examples of 36 better ones are there to look at. "

    Bob Walker wrote on Sep 5, 2009 8:58 PM:

    " "There are real death panels in California. Health insurance companies in California are required by state law to truthfully submit data on denied claims to the California Department of Managed Care.
    Data reported by the insurers to the California Department of Managed Care from 2002 through June 30, 2009 revealed that six of the largest insurers operating in California rejected 47.7 million claims for care or 22 percent of all claims.
    More than one of every five requests for medical claims for insured patients, even when recommended by a patient's physician."
    Todays SF Chron. "

    John Perry wrote on Sep 4, 2009 10:13 PM:

    " Republicans WANT reform! There are many free market reforms to be done FIRST.
    Obama's health care doesn't address Tort Reform? Over treating to avoid law suits costs BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EACH year. WHY? Dr. Dean says they won't offend lawyers, one of their largest contributors.
    INCREASE COMPETITION! Allow health insurance purchases across state lines.
    Allow small business to form groups to buy insurance.
    Allow tax deduction for personal health insurance expense.
    Unions have been after democrats to get them government health insurance for years.
    If you can't sign your real name I have no interest in your response. "

    The Truth wrote on Sep 4, 2009 3:12 PM:

    " Sorry Anne, I am neither a Doctor (nor claim to be like some here in this valley) nor am I NON-PARTISAN, I am the worst enemy of you "flaming far-left liberals" and the others "who are labeled....flaming"----because I stand for what works, I stand for what is right, I stand for what is moral and I stand for what God HONORS. Truly, my last post MAC! "

    Ann wrote on Sep 4, 2009 9:50 AM:

    " I would suggest that 'NON-PARTISAN doctor' is another persona of the one with multiple personas in these forums. "

    Constitutionalist wrote on Sep 3, 2009 7:55 PM:

    " Ten European countries pay about the same total taxes as we do. (From 33% to 39% according to the Economist)
    One, France, spends just 7% of its GNP on health care. We spend 17%.
    They have the #1 health care in the world. Every citizen has it from birth to death.
    They do two things very well: Billing and preventative care.
    They are totally government run, with all costs the same everywhere in France.
    Why not just license their billing software, and follow their health care practices? If not, why not? "

    Mac wrote on Sep 3, 2009 4:33 PM:

    " Okay, Truth...whatever you say. "

    Constitutionalist wrote on Sep 3, 2009 3:27 PM:

    " Multi personality, (multi perp?)
    There is no HR 3200 if there is no Senate bill to argue against it. Without a bill from the senate any health care changes will not and do not exist.
    The gang of six has taken HR3200 off the table.
    You are preaching a void, a specialty of yours.
    Folks, contact your Senators and tell them what YOU want in health care, whatever that is. Have your voice heard before they produce something out of committee. "

    channeling God wrote on Sep 3, 2009 12:35 PM:

    " To: All "NON-PARTISAN doctor" is not really a doctor. Now what did I say about lying? "

    celia wrote on Sep 3, 2009 7:29 AM:

    " I just found out that a relative had a bad heart attack and needs a lot of rehab. This couple has worked all their adult lives, are still working, but have to pay their own insurance which is high deductable and 80% etc. The get to look foreward to being in debt probably for the rest of their lives...and because he can't work right now, they may loose their house. THIS is freedom? How can health reform be any worse? "

    The Truth wrote on Sep 2, 2009 11:39 PM:

    " Mac: you will not have to worry about elective surgery anymore, either way, with the HR3200 or not, elective surgery will be a procedure of the past! All of the nice medical care you talk about for the "uninsurable" like people with AIDS, etc. will be no longer, the only ones who will get medical care are the 17 to 40 year olds, people who can be judged to be "productive to society!" I guess those who do not understand a "classless society" or "socialism" will have to be "fast learners!" Better sharpen your pencil! "

    Mac wrote on Sep 2, 2009 12:19 PM:

    " So, Truth, why don't you tell us what your idea is for all the people who can't get medical coverage? I'm not talking about the emergency care covered by EMTALA, but long-term maintenance, elective surgeries, general quality-of-life medical care? What is your idea for them? "

    ToA NON-PARTISAN doctor wrote on Sep 2, 2009 8:17 AM:

    " What is that agenda........????? To improve the lives of others? To offer choices? "

    The Truth wrote on Sep 1, 2009 10:13 PM:

    " Thank God, there is a "NON-PARTISAN DOCTOR" here somewhere! I thought the whole medical society had gone bonkers!
    This bill, if passed, will be horrible for doctors, the AMA (American Medical Society) has been against it from day one!
    And thank you that someone else knows what Bob Gross and his bunch is doing, I thought the whole KRV was wearing "Rose colored glasses!" "

    A NON-PARTISAN doctor wrote on Sep 1, 2009 10:25 AM:

    " News Flash. Robert Gross is a political operative. His opinions are NOT unbiased. Ditto for Al Steuart. Don't trust that what they say regarding this. THEY HAVE A BIGGER AGENDA!

    FYI - there IS a bill. The "Gang of Six" aren't the only ones writing. HR3200 (and revisions)is available for your perusal. I challenge ANY of you to read it and come back to say that it's a good bill. The simplistic posts here are alarming, but they help to explain the dire straits into which our country is heading. "

    Mac wrote on Aug 31, 2009 12:13 PM:

    " You're right, Real Truth, it's not about making things work, it's about sour grapes and wanting the President to fail so one side can say "neener neener! Told you so!" I know there are people who have legitimate concerns about health reform, and those can be addressed. But there has to be give and take, not just take. If they can't make a good faith effort to be part of the process then they just need to be pushed aside. This is too important. "

    The Real Truth wrote on Aug 31, 2009 7:51 AM:

    " There is no solution that's going to please everyone why can't we just get along...
    I'm so sick of the power and money plays it's not even about health anymore or is it? I got lost.... "

    We the people..... wrote on Aug 30, 2009 5:55 PM:

    " Ray Conner: Thanks for the update on the website for all the bill, all the way from HR3200 to HR3293, it is interesting to say the least! I notice it is given a deadline of 2010 to have the final bill drafted. I also notice the measures/addendems range from at the lowest level of care (we the people) and culminating with the President and Congress, I haven't read any of what was sticken out so far on that part, but will soon! Thanks again for the site! "

    Bob Walker wrote on Aug 29, 2009 9:24 PM:

    " Mr Conner,
    Thanks for proving my point.
    Quoting your source on how Congress works:
    "A bill that has been agreed to in identical form by both bodies becomes the law of the land only after-- (presidential signature)
    So there still is no bill as the "gang of Six" Senators has reported nothing to their committee, much less the committee to the Senate, much less an agreed on bill by both houses.
    Why is this so hard for you? There is NO bill.
    That lie is all right wing hype paid for by big Pharma. "

    ray conner wrote on Aug 29, 2009 4:32 PM:

    " Mr. Walker go to the following site.
    thomas.loc.gov/home/lawsmade.toc.html
    From there go to BILLS under No. IV "

    KRVer wrote on Aug 29, 2009 8:09 AM:

    " McCarthy's Town Hall meeting was a joke. All he did was thank people for coming and asking their question but didn't address one question that was adverse to his agenda. I STILL want to know what 'his' plan is to help the disabled who cannot afford insurance...he avoided this question three times. What a liar and a coward. "

    The Truth wrote on Aug 28, 2009 10:49 PM:

    " Yes Con, and there also will be an election for the Board of Directors of the Kern Valley Healthcare District. Now that we know we have at least 2 Directors on the board that are for Obamacare, we can get them out of that office too! I was at the event in Bakersfield, and I did not hear "Gross" call McCarthy a liar....what "tree" were you in or did he just tell you that? "

    Consitutionalist wrote on Aug 28, 2009 9:40 PM:

    " Red, You nailed it. Big Pharma has been the number two contributor to both parties for the last 25 years.
    McCarthy is a joke. Owned by big oil, big Pharma, and big Agriculture.
    He doesn't even feel it when he steps on us. It was good to see Dr. Gross take him on and call him the liar he is.
    How un-American.
    The upcoming 2010 proposition for open primaries in CA, plus the re-districting, by former judges, might change a lot in this state. "

    Bob Walker wrote on Aug 28, 2009 9:34 PM:

    " Mr. Conner,
    I listened to the female Senator from Maine today, 8/28/09. She is one of the "gang Of six" Senators debating our health care situation. She (A Republican) says there is NO BILL. She says that the Option plan is off the table, and nothing has been decided.
    Help me out, where are you getting this there is a bill stuff?
    Until the gang of six releases an idea, the Senate votes on it and the House approves it, to quote my grandpa, there ain't no bill.
    Explain your position please. "

    Ann wrote on Aug 28, 2009 9:24 PM:

    " It is really frustrating that political lines and right vs. left distract from what this Country needs to do to care for all citizens (emphasis here on citizens) with regard to affordable healthcare. It is clear that some folks just don't get it... they fear change, especially from a President they do not support. Why cannot we progress to the standard that the 36 other countries with better healthcare have? It boils down to Republican vs. Democrat. Really sad and at the same time pathetic. "

    Ann wrote on Aug 28, 2009 8:23 PM:

    " Truth (or not), perhaps your right-wing stance needs some modification in order to see the whole picture. Essentially, this is what is wrong with coming up with a bill and improving our country and healthcare system -- the right and left will not compromise for the good of all. Yes, you may be blessed with hard-earned money, but other folks are not and that is what this is all about -- your healthcare options will remain and you can pay for them. While others who are not as blessed as you can have healthcare also. "

    Red wrote on Aug 28, 2009 4:21 PM:

    " Rep. McCarthy started his town hall meeting off with a call for transparency, I guess the $300,000 he has taken from the health and insurance industry is fairly transparent ??? "

    ray conner wrote on Aug 28, 2009 4:08 PM:

    " who was talking about the top,
    and in line with what mac wrote, "BILL"
    according to you Mr. Walker there is no bill,
    Even the gang of six are calling it a bill. Maybe you should look at the whole picture instead of addressing mjust YOUR opinion "

    Mac wrote on Aug 28, 2009 9:58 AM:

    " Bob, Sen. Mike Enzi (from "Gang of 6" currently discussing health reform) has admitted that he is obstructing progress in the talks. So I don't think the Republicans are going to be a part of any meaningful change for the better. "

    Bob Walker wrote on Aug 27, 2009 10:13 PM:

    " Mr. Conner,
    I checked your Google suggestion, and guess what I found out? You don't know the difference between the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate.
    The bill referred to in your post has the large initials HR at the top, meaning House of Representatives.
    The six Senators debating this idea of health reform could care less what the House thinks. So nothing exists yet. Got it?
    Those senators are either real close to a compromise of some sort or miles apart. They won't say, so how can you? "

    ray conner wrote on Aug 27, 2009 11:47 AM:

    " Mr. Walker have you tried to google on your computer, that you are obviously fond of, the phrase "health care BILL"
    You will be suprised what you find.
    No-Name, too "

    Simon wrote on Aug 26, 2009 7:34 PM:

    " I love to read interesting post that has knowledge to impart regarding current issues! Thank you for sharing your insights! I will avidly wait for your next blog entry.

    --------------------
    Gold 401k "

    Bob Walker wrote on Aug 26, 2009 7:09 PM:

    " Truth, you want to shame a Doctor who works in our medical system every day by asking him if he has read the bill?
    Again, your seventh grade teacher would point out to you there is NO bill. Six senators, three from each side are still miles apart from anything. They have published nothing yet.
    Got it? There is NO bill. So shame on you for being sucked in by the insurance lobby blogs because you don't even do remedial homework--like read a couple national papers online each day.
    They're free by the way. "

    Bob Walker wrote on Aug 26, 2009 7:04 PM:

    " Truth, in a free society, hiding behind a false name is un-democratic and very un-American. Our forfathers signed their death warrants when they signed the Declaration of Independence.
    Try a little spinal starch, and also learn to do homework. A seventh grader would fail with your posts because they lack the who, what, where, and why we can check. If you checked it first, you wouldn't post most of it.
    36 other countries have better health care. They are all run by the governments. We have dropped from #1 to #37 with private insurance. "

    celia wrote on Aug 26, 2009 11:35 AM:

    " "the truth" wrote
    "sorry Celia".....Thanks for the apology and finally speaking the truth! I have hope for you and the other no name personalities that seem to say things very much like you..or we...or? "

    The Truth wrote on Aug 26, 2009 10:57 AM:

    " Sorry Celia, but when a person gets elected to a position to "Pad their own pocket, then voices opinion and acts accordingly, they are not doing what the people electing them chose them for. If the Healthcare bill passes all District hospitals will be "Naturalized" i.e. The people of KRV will no longer own this hospital, the District will be no longer, talk about shooting "oneself in the foot!" Forget about my name, I am trying to get you to help, not hinder! "

    celia wrote on Aug 26, 2009 10:10 AM:

    " Hey "truth" how are ya?
    All three writers did something you repeatedly fail to do. That is, use their real name. Each time you post as a fake person, you loose credibility.They also stated facts and were reasonable. They did their homework. "

    Mac wrote on Aug 26, 2009 10:01 AM:

    " So, Truth, you think it is wrong for a doctor to intercede with insurance companies on behalf of their patients, so they can get treatment they deserve? Wow. "

    The Truth wrote on Aug 25, 2009 10:58 PM:

    " Ms. Morgan, The billing tactic you supply masked as an alturistic attitude on the part of your Doc husband is commonly used to obtain a higher rate of return for service. Al Steuart, is nothing sacred in your world? And Bob Gross, shame on you for voicing your opinion as a member of the Board of Trustees posing as a representative of the people in KRV, your tactics will work as a end to close the hospital! Why don't you people do your homework? Have any of you read the bill? "

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