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Randy wrote on Feb 4, 2011 12:18 PM:

" Buck wrote:
"...the peoples right to a life free of those stupid machines."

Hmm. Seemed to miss that right in my last read of the Constitution. Must be in the 28th Amendment? "




Dont Lie wrote on Jul 1, 2010 7:47 PM:

" I just read this entire blog - I checked out "stewards..." I believe Stewards is fronting for ourlaw bikers who want and have wanted for years and years access to closed trails. You know, Hungry Valley ORV website search google for it (I-5 top of the grapevine) is HUGE (really!) and you guys have lots of room to play with your kids there to your hearts content. GO there take a look and justify WHY ANYONE WOULD GIVE YOU MORE ROOM TO DESTROY Don't lie and say you aren't destroying the land! "




Eroded Trails wrote on Jun 9, 2010 5:36 PM:

" John Perry's brain must be addled from too much riding with no shocks on his motorcycle.
There are no lawsuits preventing the Forest Service from replanting the trees from the motorcyclist caused Piute Fire.
Only lawsuits against the timber industry plans to thin the forest of all of the huge logs that might catch on fire... of course those logs are the ones that are the most fire resistant.
Stay out of my backyard, stop riding motorcycles in wilderness and on the few foot only trails designated. "




John Perry wrote on May 10, 2010 6:42 PM:

" Buck, Canebreak isn't very large, have you ever talked to the kids or their parents?
I'm 68 years old. I hope I never get as old and grouchy as you. "




Larry wrote on May 10, 2010 10:40 AM:

" I am a new resident of Weldon and many off road riders are moving there because of the great terrain and location.
I ridethe trails safely and so do all my friend and neighbors who I have met.
I have noticed much of the land seems open, but if someone does not want an off roader on their property then all they have to do is put up signs.
No one wants to get in trouble with the laws, but sometimes unmarked trails become private property . Signage is a must and trail markings would solve the problem. "




Buck wrote on May 6, 2010 6:04 PM:

" I'm with the anti orv group, I live in Canebrake and the kids on atv's are nothing but a problem. As for Chris Horgan he is a buffoon,I saw his group ride past no entry signs after the Piute fire. As for the Sequoia Forestkeepers,we need them and the sheriffs help in protecting the forest and the peoples right to a life free of those stupid machines "




Gl-60 C Level wrote on May 6, 2010 4:05 AM:

" In my opinion: I wish the Sheriff Dept. could do something about the Motor Bike Speeders (MBS) that ride through are rual roads at 90 MPH+. I viewed a Motor Bike going very fast on a rual road last week and nearly plowing in to a Cow. At that rate of speed it would be like a Car going head on with a Train.
Thats my opinion. BAD NEWS! "




John Perry wrote on Apr 30, 2010 11:59 AM:

" Hayduke, it's easy to make spurious charges when sitting in your underwear and hiding behind your computer.
You make these inane, disingenuous statements and then offer no proof.
Prove to us that you are not a member of the extreme, radical environmental group Sequoia Forest Keepers and a liar by offering some proof.
If you can prove your statement I will apologize. "




Hayduke wrote on Apr 29, 2010 7:58 PM:

" "Stewards" of the Sequoia are out there, brother. They are the bad apples in the Sequoia National Forest. "




John Perry wrote on Apr 28, 2010 10:59 PM:

" OHVs You don't know what you're talking about or you're intentionally distorting the facts.
There's no one that has worked harder in promoting responsible OHV use than the Stewards of the Sequoia or donated more hours to trail maintenance.
The Blue Ribbon Coalition represents ALL outdoor recreationists and attempts to protect them from extreme environmental groups.
I suggest everyone go to sharetrails.org to find the truth about the BRC.
Disingenuous and inane statements are used when one cannot come up with simple facts to support their position.
Where's your proof OHVs?
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY! "




Robert Koch wrote on Apr 28, 2010 1:47 PM:

" This is about Mega Corporations forcing local owners to give up their land. The Sheriff is enforcing laws out of tin air In violation of PC 602.2 look it up. the reason is owners have been under pressure to sign lease contracts with the energy company's for free use of their land. The owners want the land for riding. This is the facts. Now the Company's have enlisted the law to force small owners to give up thew property!! "




OHVs wrote on Apr 28, 2010 10:27 AM:

" Not all OHV riders break the law. But the Stewards of the Sequoia are radical in their belief that they above all other users should be allowed to go anywhere they want.
Bad OHV riders ride through wildlife sanctuaries, create their own trails (like Chris Horgan, Blue Ribbon Coalition lobbyist and his trusty chain saw do), and rut out hiking trails.
I have met many kind and courteous motorcyclists who respect others and ride on legal trails. Their is no conflict with them.
I appreciate the legal riders, but please take away the bikes of law breakers. "




mikegraves wrote on Apr 26, 2010 2:53 PM:

" I read the comments. I'm an off roader.
The testimonials regarding damage are exagerated. The statements of trail conflict are fabrication. The Forestkeeper paid staff generate the user conflict.
BUT, I don't live in Weldon. I drive through there frequently. I haven't seen people racing around and tearing things up.
BUT, some people say it is happening. My question to those of you who live in Weldon and complain on this site that your neighbors are being inconsiderate is this: Having seen these people, and probably more than once, have you ever asked them to be more considerate? "




GL-60 C Level wrote on Apr 22, 2010 6:04 AM:

" In my opion, I do not think that the OHV is all that bad. When you really think of the cost to replace a Four Wheel drive vehicle Front Axle vs a Motor bike sprocket or Chain.
If the Kern County needs my support
I will conciderate.
Maybe think of it like this to the home owner....If your some 70 years old and have trouble walking to an area to show Officers, then let the Officers do the work on their bikes..This is all my OPION....That's all. "




English wrote on Apr 21, 2010 11:07 PM:

" It's so difficult to read through these comments due to the endless spelling and grammar errors.

These are the same people that will bad mouth immigrants because they don't speak English.

Americans should know how to use,"there," "they're," and "their" by the end of third grade. "




ORV WATCH KERN COUNTY wrote on Apr 21, 2010 5:09 PM:

" The sheriff's dirt team has been instrumental in cooling conflicts between illegal, lawless OHV riders and law abiding residents. We support them wholeheartedly and appreciate their concern for our community. Please visit our website for more information.

ORV WATCH KERN COUNTY "




TB wrote on Apr 21, 2010 3:32 PM:

" It's always the same, one side of the fence or the other. Ive had to hike non designated OHV trails for the Forest Service a spider web of nasty. Stay on the trails bike riders be considerate of neighborhoods. Common courtesy is so uncommon these days. Nobody is taking away your right to ride. If you keep it legal will you really have anything to worry about? "




10 to 1 Against Wasting Police Time wrote on Apr 20, 2010 8:29 PM:

" The comments are pretty clear and about 10 to 1 AGAINST wasting more money on silly bike enforcement. Get back to work on serious issues. Stop wasting our time and money. If this is what they're doing, we need some police layoffs. "




JAS wrote on Apr 20, 2010 4:17 PM:

" I can't believe we are paying these guys, plus the cost of the bikes. But yet there are talking about closing Kernville School. Something is very wrong with that! "




Rick wrote on Apr 20, 2010 11:33 AM:

" We live in America! Public land belongs to us. If a privit owner does not want some one on there land post it or fence it. I am tired of people or goverment telling me my kids cant ride dirt bikes or atvs. If I let them on it, its my responsabily and I will take care of them not you. "




Marilyn wrote on Apr 20, 2010 7:53 AM:

" Triage, you really should try having a calm discussion with someone sometime.

So you're saying they can't do both? Have you seen how many law enforcement officers we have in the valley lately? Do you have any idea how many drug busts they did up here last month? Do you know how many people got DUIs? It's called law enforcement not Meth enforcement. I believe they should enforce all laws. I guess you and I disagree on that. "




Triage wrote on Apr 19, 2010 9:34 PM:

" Marilyn,

I sure hope you never have to do triage in an injury situation. You'd be working on hang nails right next to compound fractures. OF COURSE THE POLICE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO! Just like DOCTORS have better things to do during disasters. It's called triage. It's called prioritization. Chasing kids on bikes is SO LOW on the scale that IT SHOULD NOT BE DONE until the meth labs and violent criminals are under control. And that's NOT THE CASE in the Valley. Do you get it NOW? "




Marilyn wrote on Apr 19, 2010 2:42 PM:

" The thought that the police have better things to do is strange to me. They're enforcing the law. Isn't that what we pay them to do? If you're riding a bike on the street that isn't street legal, you're breaking the law. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or think it's fine. With all the mountains and dirt trails we have in this valley you'd think people wouldn't have a problem finding a place to ride. Nobody said anything about stopping people from riding their bikes. "




Im falling wrote on Apr 19, 2010 1:50 PM:

" Most riders I see out there are very respectful. I am surprised how good the desert looks after a long weekend with thousands of motor homes. It also seems like the desert is now being patrolled by BLM, forestry, and search and rescue officers… I guess we can use one more agency out there. They check our tags all the time. I want them out there so they can respond quicker when I bite the dirt. "




John Perry SHN wrote on Apr 18, 2010 7:28 PM:

" Trust, your credibility leaves a lot to be desired.
Sequoia Forest Keepers is an extreme environmental organization whose sole purpose is to close the Forest to all human use.
At this time the Keepers have several suites against the SNF to stop Reforestation of the Piute Burn area.
Chris Horgan is the leader of Stewards of the Sequoias which believes the Forest are for all of us. Stewards have been instrumental keeping many of the hiking, OHV trails and Lake access open to all which were about to be closed by the FS. "




Find some real crime wrote on Apr 18, 2010 4:29 PM:

" We are short on tax money. Cops get 90% pensions after 20 years. This is NUTS. Go do some real police work, like chasing drug dealers and felons. The police management on this one is OUT TO LUNCH. "




Trust Him Not wrote on Apr 18, 2010 3:18 PM:

" Mac, Read, and Concerned Citizen are probably all tree huggers, much like Chris Horgan Sequoia Forestkeepers, who spins his vitriol with the expertise of one schooled in todays Washington DC. Anyone who has an agenda to promote outside just plain "opinion" is one who is trying to find a "padded pocket" of the government, or worse yet, your pocket! Beware of the naked man who offers you his shirt! "




John Perry wrote on Apr 17, 2010 11:14 PM:

" Read, I've reread your original post.
It contains nothing but condescension, vitriol and name calling.
You're the ignorant one.
Secure, well adjusted individuals don't need to belittle others.
If you have children, your condescending, self righteous attitude must be great for their self esteem.
I've met many riders while on the forest and desert OHV trails from here to Arizona.
They've all been very pleasant and their children polite.
Every activity has its share of ignorant individuals, even these boards.
Most OHV riders appreciate Gods great gift to us all and treat it accordingly. "




Read wrote on Apr 17, 2010 8:40 PM:

" Well, Mr. Perry, it is gratifying to see that at least one OHV rider is able to write cogently in his native language. Perhaps you'd be willing to instruct "Mac" and ""Read," in basic grammar!

You might start here: "Your" is a possessive pronoun meaning "belonging to you." "You're" is the correct contraction form of "you are." Mac and "Read don't understand that. They need to get off the trails and go back to school. "




John Perry wrote on Apr 17, 2010 10:55 AM:

" The pettiness, nastiness and misinformation of posters such as Read and Citizen is unbeleiveable.
Pettiness is a lack of intellectual capacity to express thoughts honestly and coherently.
Concerned Citizen prove your statements with facts.
I'm a 68 yo avid quad rider.
Public lands are for everyone.
OHV riders PAY FOR THE PRIVILEGE and have given MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to SNF and BLM in the last few years and thousands of hours of labor.
How much time or money have other users given?
Some riders abuse the privilege but there the minority.
Most are very respectful of our great outdoors. "




Dear Read wrote on Apr 16, 2010 8:56 PM:

" You prove my point with your comment here.
For such a short entry you have many errors, proving that you need to go to a library and spend less time 'on the trails.' Here are your errors; "anyways" should be "anyway." "Your" is a possessive pronoun. You should have written "you're" which is a contraction for "you are." If you want to use colloquial language such as "huggin" you should have written it as "huggin'." Put down your six pack and go back to school. You are too dumb to OHV. "




JIM BOB BUCHANON wrote on Apr 16, 2010 5:57 PM:

" To Concerned Citizen. can you please share with the rest of us where you got your facts about the millions of dollars of damage OHV riding causes. Please don't exaggerate and make false claims. Most OHV users I know clean up trash left by others, repair trails, etc. I will continue to donate my time and send money to the orginizatons that fight to keep trails open for OHV use. "




Respectful Motorcyclist wrote on Apr 16, 2010 3:46 PM:

" Read,

You like to show your ignorance don't you? Our kids will learn more about life and common sense being out on the trails rather than being in a museum or library where they probably don't want to be anyways. Your probably one of the tree huggin hippies that voted for Obama right? Get a Clue... "




Russ wrote on Apr 16, 2010 3:42 PM:

" Where I live in Weldon OHV's are a common form of transportation around the area. Kids, parents and old guys alike roam from place to place and home to home. Some ride or drive a bit faster than others, but on the whole the entire outfit is pretty well behaved and a little extra dust or noise is a pretty small price to pay for the feedom of movement. By the way, does anyone know where "Concerned Citizen" collects his/her so-called facts. I'd really like to know. "




Concerned Citizen wrote on Apr 16, 2010 8:15 AM:

" ORVs cause millions of dollars of damage to private property and public lands. A significant number of riders have shown that they do not respect private property rights. Riders have been damaging the Pacific Crest Trail, off-limits to ORVs, for years and finally law enforcement is addressing this growing threat to our communities and quality of life. We need stronger laws, larger fines, visible identification and licenses for this destructive sport. Parents who allow their children to ride these dangerous vehicles without the proper training and gear are irresponsible. There are other safer kinds of recreation. "




knowyoursubject wrote on Apr 16, 2010 3:05 AM:

" The Sheriff's ORV team also works search and rescue and aids injured riders. Friends of Jawbone will have their 14th annual Moose Anderson Days event at Jawbone Station on April 24th. FOJ promotes responsible trail use and the event includes clean-up and restoration projects. FOJ also runs the Jawbone Station museum, bookstore and visitors center. Volunteers from both sides of this argument are invited to work together and make a difference. Visit jawbone.org and let's work together to educate young and old and ride in a way that keeps areas open. "




JIM BOB BUCHANON wrote on Apr 15, 2010 9:41 PM:

" Nah.. not really! my family and I prefer to enjoy the outdoors, nature, trees, rivers, mountains, and one of the best ways to do this is on a motorcycle. it's also great exercise (which you don't get at the library or museum) btw..I teach my kids to respect and preserve nature. your quite misinformed about OHV users. "




Read wrote on Apr 15, 2010 6:20 PM:

" If you ride one of these things for recreation your IQ equals the number of teeth in your head. You provide good material for those "Redneck" comedians.
Did you ever think about taking your kids to the library or a museum for family time instead of lining the pockets of the Arabs with all the fuel you purchase for those idiot-mobiles? "




Mac wrote on Apr 14, 2010 9:09 PM:

" The problem is, a lot of people don't think of anybody but themselves. Hey, they are having fun so everybody else needs to just shut up and put up with it. Yes, I really enjoy having idiot weekenders coming up and riding their dirtbikes up and down the road at 11:00 pm on a weeknight. Thankfully that only happened once. I cannot imagine having to put up with that horrid racket every single weekend. Jeez, people, is a little bit of consideration really too much for you? Ride considerately AND legally and everyone will be happy. "




Get over yourself Mr Pinion wrote on Apr 14, 2010 9:07 PM:

" It seems to that nobody has yet to answer the BIG QUESTION! What are the young people in this valley supposed to with their time? You get mad when they skateboard, irritated when they ride their bikes, p'sd when they 'hang' outside stores, grouchy when they play music. Let me tell you what young people do when they dont have an outlet.. THEY SMOKE POT, SNORT METH AND/OR END UP PREGNANT! Get over your 'noise' issues & be happy that young people here have this option. The dust/dirt/noise is bad, but it beats meth/pot anyday! "




penny wrote on Apr 14, 2010 5:12 PM:

" fine, have your family recreation. but for the rest of us, PLEASE do it where the area has been designated for OHV riding. it is incredibly noisy and dusty if it's done close to wher people live.... "




Mac wrote on Apr 14, 2010 4:25 PM:

" I'm just happy I don't live around all that racket. For those of you who do, you have my sympathy.

Remember the guy who got clotheslined riding his bike up a private road? Considering the lengths some frustrated property owners will go to, I'd say it's better to have the sheriffs deal with it. "




JIM BOB BUCHANON wrote on Apr 14, 2010 4:18 PM:

" To Frank Pinion,
I agree with you. I think private aviation should also be outlawed as it too infringes on my peace and quiet. oh...and river rafting, due to the screaming and yelling that disturbs me while i'm relaxing at my river front home, jet ski's and boats, etc... we could all take up butterfly catching, bird watching or whatever you decide! "




stupid wrote on Apr 14, 2010 3:56 PM:

" you can't camp at the lake without a cop paroling babysitter you can't ride ohv's
and you wonder why people do drugs, maybe the cops should go somewhere with more action, the only corruption is people corruption. leave us alone "




Tee wrote on Apr 14, 2010 3:23 PM:

" If the riders are responsible when going through residential areas and have respect for their neighbors, let then ride but where I live they tear up our dirt road and drive so fast that they make our roads unsafe. Most don't even wear helmets or any safety gear. Feel free to ride away from residential areas and enjoy the sport with your family but have some respect!!! "




todd wrote on Apr 14, 2010 2:27 PM:

" let the children play. but definately make them responsible. riding is absolutely a family affair! go get the thieves "




Frank Pinion wrote on Apr 14, 2010 1:55 PM:

" Family sport....hah. Noise, Dust, trash, destruction of environment. Take up a sport that doesn't ruin your neighbor's enjoyment of their home. "




Sara wrote on Apr 14, 2010 8:03 AM:

" Let me say some positive things about riding...since this artical didn't..it is our family sport...The family that plays together stays together!! I agree..go chase drug dealers!! "




Me wrote on Apr 14, 2010 7:50 AM:

" Amen, you are so right. For crap sake let them have fun while they are still young.I do not ride and wouldn't have when I was young,but if it keeps them out of trouble, I say go for it. "




Do Something Useful wrote on Apr 14, 2010 3:14 AM:

" Go chase drug dealers. Go find meth labs. For God sake, we have limited tax dollars and THIS isn't a good use of them. "